Comments on: Moving On http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/ Thoughts on language design, API design, compilers, Smalltalk, and Java technology Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:03:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Stuart Marks http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/#comment-9 Stuart Marks Fri, 25 May 2007 20:18:52 +0000 http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/#comment-9 Hi Peter! I was hoping to see you at today's beer bust in SCA but it looks like you're no longer at Sun. Ah well, it sounds like you have a great opportunity to do some good work with Gilad. Congratulations and good luck, and maybe I'll run into you at a conference someday. Hi Peter! I was hoping to see you at today’s beer bust in SCA but it looks like you’re no longer at Sun. Ah well, it sounds like you have a great opportunity to do some good work with Gilad. Congratulations and good luck, and maybe I’ll run into you at a conference someday.

]]> By: Simon Clemen http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/#comment-8 Simon Clemen Wed, 23 May 2007 08:17:50 +0000 http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/#comment-8 Hi Peter - Sounds like a great challange. I'm looking forward to hear about your trials @ Gilad. Hope you'll keep blogging about you findings? - now in a completely new language setting :) Cheers Simon. ps. Love the Digital-Sushi name. Hi Peter - Sounds like a great challange. I’m looking forward to hear about your trials @ Gilad. Hope you’ll keep blogging about you findings? - now in a completely new language setting :)

Cheers Simon.

ps. Love the Digital-Sushi name.

]]> By: Stefan Schulz http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/#comment-6 Stefan Schulz Sat, 19 May 2007 12:47:53 +0000 http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/#comment-6 A really interesting talk. Seems, I should watch Gilad's blog now, too. I like the idea of a version-free software world, but there is one minor non-developer point I see: contracts. Especially for maintenance issues it might be problematic not to have versions. But this might be something that has to change in the business models, where updates and upgrades are still different in handling and price, and sometimes fixes and features get bought or sold with respect to the version a customer owns (and who is not willing or anxious about going all the versions up to the current stand). I remember a company who still used Netscape 3 in a specific revision, because later editions were not decontrolled by some "authority". Not having versions would most probably make those authority guys unwilling. A really interesting talk. Seems, I should watch Gilad’s blog now, too.
I like the idea of a version-free software world, but there is one minor non-developer point I see: contracts. Especially for maintenance issues it might be problematic not to have versions. But this might be something that has to change in the business models, where updates and upgrades are still different in handling and price, and sometimes fixes and features get bought or sold with respect to the version a customer owns (and who is not willing or anxious about going all the versions up to the current stand). I remember a company who still used Netscape 3 in a specific revision, because later editions were not decontrolled by some “authority”. Not having versions would most probably make those authority guys unwilling.

]]> By: Peter Ahé http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/#comment-5 Peter Ahé Sat, 19 May 2007 10:28:37 +0000 http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/#comment-5 Stefan, Have a look at Gilad's talk at Google: http://gbracha.blogspot.com/2007/03/sobs.html After hearing this talk, some people tend to remember the dream about removing software versions. No versions is a vision; the first 37 minutes is about what we know can be done today. Pay attention to that. I'm not yet sure how much I can say besides that. Stefan,

Have a look at Gilad’s talk at Google: http://gbracha.blogspot.com/2007/03/sobs.html

After hearing this talk, some people tend to remember the dream about removing software versions. No versions is a vision; the first 37 minutes is about what we know can be done today. Pay attention to that.

I’m not yet sure how much I can say besides that.

]]> By: Stefan Schulz http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/#comment-4 Stefan Schulz Sat, 19 May 2007 10:02:27 +0000 http://digital-sushi.org/entry/moving-on/#comment-4 Would be great to see a successful revival of Smalltalk or similar a language. I often regret I had to drop it for Java (marketing driven development sucks). Or are you rather going into Strongtalk, making it typed/type-safe? Well, whatever, hope to find some time to catch up on your work. Would be great to see a successful revival of Smalltalk or similar a language. I often regret I had to drop it for Java (marketing driven development sucks). Or are you rather going into Strongtalk, making it typed/type-safe?
Well, whatever, hope to find some time to catch up on your work.

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